Friday, 5 April 2013

OSHO, SEX, HINDUS AND MUSLIMS

OSHO, SEX, HINDUS AND MUSLIMS

(As complied from a chat. Comments from participants are given in brackets) 


Muslims laugh at the sexually explicit sculptures in Khajuraho and slander Hindus as shameless.

Dear Muslim Brothers... I do not understand why you take everything in the negative way only... Ancient Hindus had a positive approach to sex as evident from the sculptures and books like "Kamashasthram and Koka Shasthram".

The church which came only 2000 years ago had a negative approach to sex, branding sex as a sin. Prophet Mohammed had a hyper active sex life having eleven wives from 6 years to 65 years. But still why Muslims like to laugh at the ancient Hindu sculptures on sex is mind boggling.

This is hypocrisy ! Either you say sex is good. Or bad. You cant feel good when the Prophet did that but ridicule the Hindu temples for sex sculptures.

Further these sex sculptures are outside the temples. Inside the temple there are big empty halls for meditation. The meaning is; those who are interested in sex may go out and satisfy the same. Those who have no sex in mind may come in and meditate.

Was this culture laughable ? Use the same standards everywhere. And see things in perspective. Not with pre-judgements.

(Muslims say ...Marriages of Muhammad were for political purpose than satisfying "lust" like majority of historic kings. Consul wiki and, minimum age was 9 from authentic sources, and 20 from calculated time line of Muhammad's event. If Muhammad's marriages purpose was "lust" Muhammad had full power and credibility over believers to marry 20, pure , 9 years old virgins. And all Muslim must have had happily provided him with it, and he could have spent his whole life enjoying different virgins to satisfy his lust. But Muhammad's wives were divorcees and widows, and used.... Except Ayesha the only virgin, his friends daughter, to Make strong relation with Abu Bakar who was going to become caliph of Islam, and Ayesha one of the 3 persons who memorized whole Qur'an, and progressed Muhammad's mission after the death of him. For next 50 years, she was titled as umal momineen , (mother of the Muslims). she narrated thousands of saheh hadith to contribute exact Islam...... It cant be action of Muhammad, rather it's a style of lord Brahma..he had married own daughters Saraswati and Rohini).

These sexually explicit sculptures outside a Hindu temple is food for thought. People normally hide sex before God. Right ? Here it was just the opposite ! The ancient Indian males were fearless and fun loving. They celebrated sex. What is there to be ashamed of ? The shame is in your mind. The forefathers might have said..."Do not be shy... child...Be mature....Sex is a celebration...Be proud of it and learn the varieties possible as discovered by the researchers....LOL !"

(Question from a Muslim: Then why cant u also follow and do it open..U people already make westerns do it in open Sex further encouraging them on PORN movies...)

Can sex be done in the open for its complete indulgence and union ? It is confidential and highly personal merger of just two individuals. What is important is that the attitude towards sex is to be positive. Accept sexuality as a natural faculty. Not walking with a bowed head in shame in public thinking it was shameful ! Hope the difference is understood. It is the attitude that matters. Not what you do to placate the rest.

(Comment : Read Al-rawd al-ʿatir fī nuzhaẗ al-hatir by Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad al-Nafzawi ...it will show you why SEX is a celebration).

Those who think sex is the piston work like dogs may not reach higher levels of sex. Romance for example is a sublimated form of sex. There are still higher levels. Sublimation of raw sex can make one reach spiritual highs. In the highest level of union, the two beloveds become one at the soul.

Surprising that none has really read Osho and live in the animal level of body sex as the end of it ! The bigger the organ or the longer one can last in the act, the better ? End of story ! If that is the purpose of life and the ultimate experience available, Negroes may win hands down, as heard.

Osho is the only seer who has caught the sex bullet by his teeth. Osho says there are four levels of sex. The first is Masturbatory Sex when young. The individual plays with his own body and finds pleasures. The second is Homo sex during puberty as same sexed partners are easier to get. The third is Hetero sex during adulthood which is the most adventurous of the three. The most satisfying too.

BUT... (this is is really big but indeed)....Do not miss this. If you do, you simply do not understand .


Osho also says "Do not get stuck in any of these three stages of sex !" 

Then ? 

Transcend to the fourth state of sex, which is to get over sex or go beyond sex ! And he explains how to get over sex and reach salvation, a state of permanent Godliness, by simply being honest and sincere.

For this Osho was called a 'sex swamy / guru', by none other than the priests
who understood sex the normal majority way. This was equivalent to crucifying Jesus by misunderstanding what he meant. But that happens here on a daily basis. Relax. It is routine here. Nothing unusual.

Those who are interested in understanding what Osho said, just observe closely. Did Osho advise how to increase sexual pleasure by indulging in sex more ? No. Instead he advised to go beyond sex to experience a permanent state of Godliness, which is the same Nirvana or Samadhi or Salvation that Indian Rishis have been exhorting for millenniums. Where sex becomes just another natural biological activity and take it in your stride than feeling shy or hide it from the personality and keep a poker face in public ! 

Instead of understanding what Osho meant, see how the world jumped the gun and branded Osho as a sex addict ! 

This is the ignorance and ego of the sexually active males. They cannot get over the petty issues but still do not refrain from judging everyone including God and feel better. The saying "Frogs in ponds cannot understand what ocean is"...is an old proverb which will remain valid till the last human on earth becomes a Buddha. 

There is plenty of time left. In fact at least 400 million years until the Sun becomes a red giant and expand till Mars, swallowing Earth in a mammoth fire ball.

(Comment from a reader- Thanks for rekindling the memories of one of the greatest minds (Osho) I have ever had the fortune to meet. I do believe thoughts Master is wasted on this people for his perspective is way too advanced for the stilted believes of the people here and that is a pity indeed...)

True. The silly idiotic people who cant see beyond their own minds judge a lighthouse like Osho. It may take longer for the humanity to understand what Osho said. May be another 1000 years.

(Comment from a reader - I agree 100% with what Osho said about sex, very realistic attitute. May only question is: Did Osho have any rules, like sex within marriage or outside marriage, his views on illicit sex, etc.)

(Comment - osho said, follow to khajuraho and f**k to each other freely mind and without and hesitation..cos controling to sex is harmful, when u wanna get internal peace, then follow to osho it's best way.. )


(Osho also said, all human problems are related to suppression of sexual urge. I remember him telling, Morarji Desai the Prime Minister of India thinking is all wrong and muddled because he suppressed his sex)

(We Muslims will have fun after life if we keep away from rotten bitches and live a straight and honest life. While the Kaffars are not sure about their after life, so they rape women, these poor women are not safe even in a capital city of India.)

(I am H i V , positive i should celebrate , with whom who are celebrating their own, let free my mind , with them , and help them too , to free their mind, So who wants a Mind free Fuck , with me, please no condoms that hurdles my mind).


(Sex is celebration, lets celebrate it with , who is loyal , purest, and true, to me, of course she's my wife, that can only free my mind and her's i want her to be loyal to me, I should too must be loyal to her. That can only free my mind, a prostitute speaking lie or truth to me who knows).

(These are very racist comments.. as respected person Islam does not permit to say bad word about other religions)

(racism includes by definition discrimination by color, sex, religion or any other bias...)

Osho sees people as free beings. Like the fingers of a palm. No two fingers have any special relations. Marriage and family is a working system in the current scenario where human minds are still insecure and immature about treating all others as mature free beings. 


In Osho communion, of about 3000 people, all were free beings trying to reach their inner silence through meditation. Members donated all their belongings to the Osho foundation and took care of the needs of the members like a big family. The wealth was common. The next generation was decided by the scientific DNA lab which analyzed the best combination of couples who will produce superlative babies with no defects. Only such selected couples were allowed to make babies. And the babies were brought up as common property of the communion, taken care by all. It was a futuristic idea.

The religions got alarmed as there was no faith or prayers in the Osho communion. Instead the members were trying to reach the spiritual heights of none less than Jesus, Mohammed or Buddha through cleaning the mind, detachment and meditation. Osho encouraged them to become Gurus like the prophets and founders of religions and called the followers as potential spiritual giants and never as his disciples. There was no pretensions or ritual in Osho community. Members were highly educated and rich. They lived like a family identifying the others as siblings. It was a totally different level of living having no relations or all relations. . Those who are in relationships and believe in relationships cannot go beyond the relationships they imagine.

(comment - osho said, follow to khajuraho and f**k to each other freely mind and without and hesitation..cos controling to sex is harmful)

Osho never said that. 'You' are saying this...You are slandering Osho because that is what your mental state is.

Osho wanted people to get over this very mental state. Giggling at sex, hiding sex from public and revealing the fangs when dark is the common male behaviour. This is immature. Those with immature sex behaviour will, for example behave well in public like gentlemen talk nicely etc. But when the woman is free all alone with him, he becomes possessed and violent and uncontrollable. This is neurosis. Those who really understand sex and accept it as a natural faculty will behave the same way to a woman in the crowd and when all alone. If there is sexual urge, express it in the most natural way with the most natural partner. Then one can go beyond the mechanical copulation like animals culminating at the orgasm but reach higher levels by sublimating sex.

There is a state of unlimited orgasmic pleasure called ecstasy possible by understanding sex and approaching it responsibly. Osho said "If a man completes the sex act in three minutes, he would need to do it again the next day. If he can last 8 minutes, he would forget it for two weeks. 


And IF (a big if that is!)....read carefully to understand...

If the couple can remain in coitus position for 3 hours, the couple will not have to do sex ever again in their life. Why ? Because then they have already enjoyed every bit of union possible in sex. Body, Mind Soul. Complete merger. It is a permanent state.

It is like eating sweets. Eat any number of sweets...A temporary satisfaction will be there every time. But just eat one sweet... slowly... taking time, studying every moment of the process enjoying it to the fullest with all your attention, and you have understood what that sweet is...'completely'. Now the next time you do not have to eat the same sweet . You have already known what it is. 


Similarly with sex.

(I did not undrstood sweet example , does it mean , i will no longer like chocholate?)


(Muslims are too much ignorant to sex education, that is not good thing, i should follow osho. Really it needs to be followed, but I will follow him, in what aspects my religion do permit, can I?)

When I was young, the moralists and wise guys refrained me from reading Osho saying that he is a sex guru like Vatsyayanan who wrote Kama shasthra. When I was finished with most Gurus and prophets and still unsettled and confused, I read Osho books too. Because there was nothing (more) to lose. 


Osho exposes Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha and Mahavira (and many others) thread bare and pants down with a clarity and boldness not seen in any other. Read Osho books at osho.com. If you lose faith in the current prophet or founder of religion or Guru, do not blame me or Osho. Osho shows only their true colours and the designs of clever businessmen masquerading behind religions. 

So read Osho at your own risk. 

It is an open challenge ! ANYONE OUT THERE DARE TO READ OSHO ?

The immature minds stuck in faith are going to get hit for a 'lost ball' six.

(nothing wrong with sex..not sure why this Khajuraho picture is such a big deal. Perfectly natural thing sex)

That is why religions and priests advise not to read Osho. Because if one reads Osho, then people will know how to communicate directly with God. Religions and priests will go out of business. So they resist Osho mind spreading to save their way of free living by scaring people about Prophets and God and Hell and what not. But those who have read Osho are a happy lot. Their fears are gone.They feel free and liberated. What they lost are only their shackles.Those who have not understood Osho resort to slandering him along with the priests and religions. But precisely by doing so, they are playing into the hands of the religions and priests who want people to remain fearful and submissive like sheep. 


Dare to read Osho ? Read Osho and then comment, if one can comment afterwards, that is... 

Posting the Khajuraho picture was just to belittle Hindus. Sex is not properly understood by most, who end up in animal level body to body sex and think that is the end of it. That is what their experience is. Higher levels are not known to them. And if someone tells them there are higher levels, the body sex experts think about more body sex ! Like the frogs in a pond imagining about the ocean as a bigger pond ! Instead of trying to understand what the learned ones kindly advise, the self styled experts slander the well meaning learned ones. Who loses ? The learned one ? No. Those who refuse to learn and rise to higher levels of existence. Those who laugh at the learned ones end up the laughing stock. Will they ever learn ? No. They die laughing at others and learning nothing more than an animal about sex.

There is no point in keeping on writing like this. The readers will stop slandering Osho and start ridiculing me instead ! I suggest readers to read Osho books and realise your mistake in understanding what Osho said. He did not teach more ways to enjoy sex. No. But ways to transcend sex, go beyond sex, get over sex and reach divinity, which is one's core state.


Those who indulge in animal level body sex will never understand what Osho said. Because they think they know what sex is as good as anyone. They do know. But only a little about sex, the body level sex that is. It is these neurotics who imagine about virgins in heaven after death !

But Alas !


There is no heaven. Forget virgins ! 

But we can surely reach a stage of ultimate satisfaction by channelizing the sex energy, sublimating it and reaching spiritual highs. When you laugh at Osho, you are closing your own door to freedom. Osho has nothing to lose. 

All the best

1 comment:

  1. Loved It. Your your intelligence is highly appreciable.
    An Osho fan

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