Wednesday 26 February 2014

CAN ONE LIVE WITHOUT ANY RELIGION ? IF NOT WHY NOT ?

CAN ONE LIVE WITHOUT ANY RELIGION ? IF NOT WHY NOT ?

(Discussion in English and Malayalam. Pls read the later comments by 'Athira Snair'. Amazing clarity of thoughts. This is the kind of resonance I have been searching for. Pls read it to know why)

ഒരു മതത്തിലും ചേരാതെ ജീവിക്കാന്‍ പറ്റുമോ ? ഇല്ലെങ്കില്‍ എന്ത് കൊണ്ട് ?

(ഇത് Free Thinkers ഗ്രൂപ്പില്‍ നടന്ന ചര്‍ച്ചയുടെ ഭാഗം ആണ്. താഴെ ഇംഗ്ലീഷ് ഇല്‍ 'Athira Snair' എഴുതിയ കമന്റ്സ് നോക്കുക. ഇതാണ് ഞാന്‍ കേള്‍ക്കാന്‍ ആഗ്രഹിച്ചത്‌ സന്തോഷമായി )

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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan തീർച്ചയായിട്ടും
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Kattapana Kuttan ഇന്ത്യ ആയതുകൊണ്ട്
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Mohammed Jamal ജീവിക്കാന്‍ പറ്റും.. പക്ഷെ മരിക്കാന്‍ ഇത്തിരി പ്രയാസപ്പെടും
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Kattapana Kuttan അതെന്താ ഇന്ത്യയിൽ മാത്രമേ നിരീശ്വര വാദികൾ ഉള്ളോ?
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Kattapana Kuttan അല്ല ഇന്ത്യ നിറയെ ഈശ്വരന്മാര്‍ ആയതുകൊണ്ട്
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Lalu Natarajan Mohammed Jamal മരിക്കാന്‍ എന്താ പ്രശ്നം ?
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Mohammed Jamal മരണ ശേഷമാണ്‌ വിശ്വായിയുടെ കര്‍മഫലം ആരംഭിക്കുന്നത്‌..
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Anish Karim അതെന്താ മതമില്ലെങ്കില്‍ മരണമില്ലേ ?
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Sathish Kumar marikaan vendi jeevikuna kayuthakal...........
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Kattapana Kuttan മോഹമദ് : ഈ കര്‍മ കാരണ ഫലം ആരനുഭാവിക്കും ?
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Praveen V Chengara ഒരു ദുശീലങ്ങളും ഇല്ലാതെ ജീവിച്ചാ എന്ത് രസം ? അതൊക്കെ പോലെ തന്നെ..
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Shajeer Majeed Mohammed Jamal ജീവിക്കാന്‍ പറ്റും.. പക്ഷെ മരിക്കാന്‍ ഇത്തിരി പ്രയാസപ്പെടും///

പ്രയാസം മരിക്കാന്‍ ആണോ.. മരിക്കുമ്പോള്‍ ആണോ.. മരിക്കുമ്പോള്‍ ആണെങ്കില്‍ അത് എല്ലാവര്ക്കും ഉണ്ടാകും..
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan കൃത്യമായി പറഞ്ഞാൽ :- ഹിന്ദുക്കൾക്ക്‌ 33 കോടിയും, ക്രിസ്ത്യാനികൾക്കും, ജൂതന്മാർക്കും, മുസ്ലീങ്ങൾക്കും ഓരോന്നു വീതവും ഈശ്വരന്മാർ ഉണ്ട് ...
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Lalu Natarajan Mohammed Jamal മരണ ശേഷമാണ്‌ വിശ്വായിയുടെ കര്‍മഫലം ആരംഭിക്കുന്നത്‌..: )0 ഇത് ആരോ പറഞ്ഞു കേട്ടതല്ലേ ? നിങ്ങള്ക്ക് ബോദ്ധ്യം ഉള്ള കാര്യം ആണോ ? അല്ലല്ലോ ? ബോധ്യം ഉള്ള കാര്യങ്ങള്‍ പറയു.
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Gireesh Bhasker ഈ ചോദ്യം ചോദിക്കാനുള്ള തിരിച്ചറിവുണ്ടാകുമ്പോഴേക്കും നാം മതത്തിന് അടിമയായിരിക്കും.
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Kattapana Kuttan ബിമല്‍ : ജീവനുള്ള ദൈവങ്ങള്‍ക്ക് എന്താ എണ്ണം ഇല്ലേ
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Lalu Natarajan Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan: ഹിന്ദുക്കള്‍ക്ക് 33 കോടി ദൈവങ്ങള്‍. മറ്റു മതങ്ങള്‍ 300. അപ്പോള്‍ ആകെ ദൈവങ്ങള്‍ 33 കോടി 300. കണക്കു ശരിയല്ലേ ?
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Praveen V Chengara അതിനു എണ്ണം ചോദിച്ചാണോ ഈ പോസ്റ്റ്‌ ?
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Kattapana Kuttan അവരുടെ എണ്ണം എങ്ങനെ എടുക്കും?
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Kattapana Kuttan നാഷണല്‍ ഹൈവേ വഴി ഒന്ന് പോയി നോക്കൂ ബിമല്‍ ....കണ്ണാടി പെട്ടിക്കകത്തും , ഫ്ലെക്സ് ബോര്‍ഡിലും, നോട്ടീസിലും ഒക്കെ കാണാം , പിന്നെ പത്രത്തിന്റെ പരസ്യകൊലവും മറക്കാതെ നോക്കൂ ..... ബാക്കി എണ്ണം അടുത്ത സ്റെപ്പില്‍...
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Lalu Natarajan ഏതെങ്കിലും മതത്തില്‍ ചേരാതെ ജീവിക്കാന്‍ പറ്റില്ല സാധാരണ മനുഷ്യര്‍ക്ക്‌. കാരണം അവര്‍ക്ക് ലോക ബന്ധങ്ങള്‍ ഉണ്ട്. അവരുടെ കൂടെ പോകേണ്ടി വരും. വേറെ വഴി ഇല്ല.
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan ബുദ്ധമതക്കാരാണ് ഭേദം. അവർക്ക് ഈശ്വരൻ ഇല്ല!
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Anish Karim അങ്ങനെ അല്ലാതെയും ജീവിക്കാം. പിന്നെ സഹജീവികളുടെ ചില നിര്‍ബന്ധങ്ങള്‍ക്ക് വഴങ്ങേണ്ടി വരുമെന്ന് മാത്രം.
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Lalu Natarajan ദൈവ വിശ്വാസികള്‍ ദൈവം ഇല്ലെന്നു പറയുന്ന ബുദ്ധമതക്കാരെ തല്ലി കൊല്ലുമോ ?
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Anish Karim ബുദ്ധമതക്കാരെ തല്ലി കൊല്ലുമോ ?
അങ്ങനെ ഒരു ചരിത്രം കേട്ടിട്ടുണ്ട്.
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan പക്ഷെ ഇപ്പോൾ ബുദ്ധമതക്കാർ വേറെ ഒരബദ്ധം കാണിക്കുന്നുണ്ട്. അവർ ശ്രീ ബുദ്ധനെ ദൈവമായിട്ടു ആരാധിക്കുന്നു. ഓരോരോ വിരോധാഭാസമേ!
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan മനുഷ്യൻ എളുപ്പത്തില്‍ വിശ്വസിക്കുന്ന ഒരു ജീവിയാണ്. എന്തെങ്കിലുമൊന്നിൽ വിശ്വസിച്ചേ പറ്റൂ. നല്ല കാരണങ്ങൾ ഉള്ള വിശ്വാസം കിട്ടിയില്ലെങ്കിൽ അവൻ ചീത്ത കാര്യത്തിൽ വിശ്വസിക്കും. - ബർട്രെൻഡ് റസ്സെൽ
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Hakeem Ar Hakeem Ar hi
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Athira Snair you alone are enough to face the sunrise, you don't need somebody to interpret for you what a beautiful sunrise it is... And this is my attitude: you are here, every individual is here, the whole existence is available. All that you need is just to be silent and listen to existence. There is no need of any religion, there is no need of any God, there is no need of any priesthood, there is no need of any organization. I trust in the individual categorically. Nobody up to now has trusted in the individual in such a way.
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair how long have u been like this?
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Athira Snair for last five years my god is existence....
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Athira Snair i won't go to temple,church or mosques just i will sit under a tress or go to some natural places like mountains and i will spend there i can feel the energy and i am in peace this religion is stupidity for me
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair can u explain the term "energy" precisely?
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Arun Kumar തീര്‍ച്ചയായും പറ്റും
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Athira Snair The energy of the cosmos is surrounding you. All that is needed is a certain emptiness in you. the energy can neither be created not be destroyed but we can transform from one form to other as we studied here also transformation happens like lust to love anger to joy sadness to blissfulness Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair are u saying that our emotions like anger, love and lust are manifestations of energy? anyway, interesting concept!
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Athira Snair Because we are part of one existence, whomsoever you are hurting, you are hurting yourself in the long run. Today you may not realize it, but one day when you become more aware; then you will say, 'My God! This wound was inflicted by me -- upon myself.' You had hurt somebody else thinking that people are different. Nobody is different. This whole existence is one, cosmic unity. Out of this understanding comes non-violence
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair we can't live a self-less life forever. sooner or later our animal instincts must takeover...
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Anish Karim Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan are you trying to say to overcome our animal instinct we need religion ? or it just needs good manners and a brain ?
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Anish Karim no. i don't subscribe to any religion whatsoever. but, Athira Snair's concept is different. that's y i asked...
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Athira Snair sorry Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan i can't make you understand..first you don’t fill it by beliefs, don’t fill it again by another kind of god, another philosophy, some existentialism. Don’t fill it. Leave it clean and fresh, and go deeper You will find it ask to yourself
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair you are starting to sound like an eastern mystic...
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Athira Snair what you want to know Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan....no problem you ask about religion also but for me all religion is stupidity
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Lalu Natarajan Athira Snair: Applause ! Standing ovation. Can you believe you are the only sensible voice in this whole group ? I am honoured and my mission with this group is over. I was waiting for resonance, synchronicity. I hear it in you. Thanks
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Lalu Natarajan Athira Snair : I have a childhood friend named Annamma who works at your college.
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Athira Snair Lalu Natarajan i just said what i feel in my consciousness...thank you
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair yes, i totally agree. religion arises out of stupidity! but i want to know something. if u can't make me understand ur philosophy, then how gud is such a thing?
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Athira Snair Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan you ask me what you want to know..?? simple how can i say
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair ok, i get it. let me rephrase the question.how do u explain ur philosophy? it's a YOU...
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Lalu Natarajan Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan: let me answer that question
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Lalu Natarajan go on...
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Lalu Natarajan What Athira Snair says is the simple truth. The existence is around you. But most donot see it. What they see is their own mind. Limited, biased, body centric with likes and dislikes. Get over your own mind. Then your mind becomes no more. Your mind gets lost. What remains is the existence in its full glory. Live that existence all by yourself. Be your own master.
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Zuhair Thangal It is impossible to live as anti islamist among my community. So iam hypocitic..!
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Athira Snair more over i am not sharing my philosophy just i am sharing my own experience..i am not sharing prophet or krishna or christ or buddha philosophy..“Listen to your being. It is continuously giving you hints; it is a still, small voice. It does not shout at you, that is true and that is your consciousness and that is your reality
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Athira Snair Zuhair Thangal can i ask one question to you please don't feel bad try to get me an answer
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair i beg to disagree...
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Kattapana Kuttan athira you sounds weird ...... can you explain that sentence " listen to your being " and follow ....
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Lalu Natarajan Zuhair Thangal : Your mind is trapped in some belief or faith indoctrinated by your religion. You are thinking what is taught to you. Not your natural free thinking. Someone else's thoughts have invaded you. Free yourself
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Athira Snair well said Lalu Natarajan
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Kattapana Kuttan i second that
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Zuhair Thangal Sathan trapped me or kuttichathan...!
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Athira Snair Kattapana Kuttan there many things which cannot be explained in simple words can only be experienced its beyond limitation
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Kattapana Kuttan a state of insanity
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Athira Snair Zuhair Thangal you no need to search sathan outside its stupidity both sathan and god exist with in you..your good qualities is god and bad qualities is sathan like wise we can say about heaven and hell Heaven and hell are not geographical. If you go in search of them you will never find them anywhere. They are within you, they are psychological. The mind is heaven, the mind is hell, and the mind has the capacity to become either. But people go on thinking everything is somewhere outside. We always go on looking for everything outside because to be inwards is very difficult. We are outgoing. If somebody says there is a god, we look at the sky. Somewhere, sitting there, will be the divine person.
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Zuhair Thangal Who said all u think freely! Your thoughts influencedvby sytems and surroundinds..
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Lalu Natarajan Zuhair Thangal Osho said. 'Be a Christ. But never become a Christian ! Be a Mohammed. But never ever become a Mohammedan. Be another Buddha. No harm. But never become a Buddhist.' Why ? Because Buddha, Nabi, Jesus etc are original uncorrupted minds. Be like them.No harm. Free your mind. Live with existence. But the moment one says I follow someone, your being, originality is gone. Now you are borrowing someone else's thoughts and think it is yours. It is not. Only your original thoughts would remain with you whatever you believe. That is the trap religions do on unsuspecting minds.
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Zuhair Thangal How can they sit both in the mind..God=Sathan?
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Lalu Natarajan Zuhair Thangal It is impossible to live as anti islamist among my community. So iam hypocitic..!)) : Precisely because of this reason, all religion and the 'so called' religious people would be against a free soul like Osho. Because he does not adjust to someone's thoughts. Because he can think himself. Religions want dumb fearful believers. Not fearless bright free thinkers.
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Athira Snair your own experience is your spirituality as Lalu Natarajan said about osho...what you people are studying is some people experiences which happens centuries before now world is changed a lot and god has give you the energy to find out your consciousness
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Kattapana Kuttan any chemical substance can change or could influence " your being / existence of full glory, such like .... ' things '....
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Athira Snair Zuhair Thangal you people believes that god creates all then you try to find out who must created this sathan also
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Zuhair Thangal Did you read my comments? Why blame u people..? I dont want represent any absurd ideologies. No sathan.. No god.. That was what i hinted
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Athira Snair yes Zuhair Thangal if i amke you feel bad i am so sorry
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Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan Athira Snair “Listen to your being. It is continuously giving you hints; it is a still, small voice. It does not shout at you, that is true and that is your consciousness and that is your reality" - EXPAIN THIS
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Lalu Natarajan Bimal Chellisseril Sadasivan: Any amount of explanation will not satify.
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Lalu Natarajan You have to experience yourself. Those who experienced can only guide the rest. To follow or not is their problem.
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Muralik Thrichur ഇല്ലെന്നാരു പറഞ്ഞു
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Zuhair Thangal I am not a believer but i am compelled to live as an hypocritic.. Our social back ground doesnt support to live freely.. Financial back ground is a main thing

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